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Let’s just get this out of the way. I didn’t grow up in a conventional place. I grew up in Berkeley, California, in the ‘60s. My neighborhood was originally known as Northbrae, but subsequently earned the nickname “The Gourmet Ghetto” in the mid-70s with the eruption of California Cuisine at Chez Panisse restaurant and numerous other gourmet establishments several blocks from my family home built by my great grandfather in 1906. Northbrae was a quiet neighborhood of large, single family homes, roughly a mile northwest of downtown Berkeley and the University of California campus.

Life as a kid in Berkeley could be idyllic, and at times tumultuous. It pretty much depended where you were. My neighborhood was filled with endless diversions for a young boy: creeks to explore, parks and playgrounds galore, and the maze of paths throughout the Berkeley Hills to wander around. The skateboarding was epic. My mom would drive me up to the top of the Berkeley Hills and I would beat her home, every time.

During the height of the Vietnam War in the late ’60s and early ’70s, the area near the University of California campus and downtown Berkeley was likely to erupt in a confrontation between the police and the protesters on any given day. Given that my high school was downtown and my place of part time employment was a record shop on Telegraph Ave, the epicenter of Berkeley’s counterculture, it was commonplace that I was often swept up in these civil insurrections. Being picked up by the cops for very dubious reasons was not at all uncommon if one happened to be a scruffy teenager (weren’t we all?) at the wrong place and wrong time. It became very annoying to have to consider the possibility of arrest doing something as mundane as going to a dentist appointment. Against that backdrop, I came of age.

Obsession with airplanes and aviation has been the continuous phase in the matrix of my life. Berkeley happens to be located beneath a major departure and arrival corridor for both the Oakland and San Francisco airports. I can recall as a toddler hearing the enormous four engine piston airliners breaking the stillness of the early morning as they climbed out overhead.  I must have had a hundred model airplanes strewn around my room as a pre-teen boy. I pored over books about airplanes and heroic pilots for countless hours. My dad made me a VHF receiver that picked up the local Air Traffic Control frequencies.

United DC-6

The author, holding his grandmother’s hand, deplaning after his first airline flight at the Oakland Airport, the scene of many future adventures and misadventures. The author’s father is in the checkered shirt below the pilot’s window.

A perfect Saturday morning was breakfast at Ole’s Waffle Shop in Alameda with my dad, then heading over to the Oakland Airport to watch the airliners land and take off from Oakland’s runway 27R, long before the South Terminal and runway 29 was a gleam in the Port of Oakland’s eye. The boarding gates were exactly that: a gate in a three-foot high chain-link fence under an awning covering a long walkway. The airliners would taxi right up to the gate, the wing tip nearly touching the awning. For a young kid, that was extremely impressive!

Just shy of my 15th birthday, I decided to do something about this flying thing. I set out on the bus from Berkeley and eventually made it down to the Oakland Airport. I started knocking on doors, and by that afternoon I found a flight school that was looking for a weekend line boy. I was actually offered the job by the full-time line boy, who was sick of working six days a week, and knew a sucker when he saw one. Bob Haberman, now a physicist, became my big brother in aviation.  He was a couple years older than I was, and had a Commercial certificate. We’re still in touch to this day.

Thus, I began my flight training. The flight school was called Flightways. It was located in the old terminal building, which also housed the Flight Service Station, a pilot shop, and a pilot examiner’s office. I really had unwittingly stumbled onto a golden nugget, since Flightways was also the Citabria dealership, and in addition to all the usual pilot curricula, Flightways was the aerobatics school, or as others at the airport put it, the “Freak School.”

P-51 taxiing

Flightways’ original home at Hangar 2. The P-51 was owned by a group of fellow freaks.

Flightways had been founded years earlier by Bob Short, who was already a legend at the airport. Bob was a former alcoholic jazz trumpeter who had gotten sober, and rather than finding religion, had found flying.  He expressed himself with aerobatics the way he had as a jazz musician. Bob had been an instructor for many years and everyone at the airport knew him and respected him. He flew airshows in a stock 115-hp Citabria 7ECA that he pulled off the flight line. If it had a tailwheel on it, Bob was all for it. He spoke of tricycle gear Cessnas, Pipers, Beechcraft and the like with utter disdain.

Bob Short

The man himself, Bob Short.

Bob was an old school flight instructor. He sat behind me in the Citabria, and if I didn’t fly well, he would cuff me upside the head and growl at me to “Sit up straight and fly right!” But did he teach me to fly! One of the rites of passage to qualify in his book was for the student to land across taxiway A, short of the 27R threshold, and taxi off at the taxiway B centerline, just past the threshold—a distance of about 250 feet. Doable, but you had to be right on airspeed, and you needed about 20 kts of headwind. Another of Bob’s rites of passage was to fly beneath the roadway of the Golden Gate Bridge, but of course, I would never admit to doing that.

Flightways tails

The flight line at Flightways circa 1970.

Though he had sold the business to a rather buttoned-down fellow named Jug Shoaf, Bob still ruled the roost as the Instructor Emeritus and Chief Bull Goose Loony at Flightways. Naturally, he attracted instructors, students, and pilots of like mind, and the characters who floated through Flightways was a “Who’s Who” of Bay Area freakiness. The connection between aerobatic flight and being a generally free-spirited individual was quite strong.

I got to know some very well. The late Doug Tompkins, a mountaineering wild-man who founded The North Face and then went on to found the Esprit line of apparel (and making a gazillion dollars in the process), was a constant presence at Flightways. He frequently trained at aerobatics in the Citabria, and he also owned a Cessna 185 Super Skywagon. Doug, his wife Susie, and daughter Summer did an absolutely incredible trip from Oakland all the way down to Patagonia and back in about 1971. After their return, Flightways hosted a barbecue and slide show of their trip that was an absolute mind-blower. Doug took thousands of amazing photos of the high Andes, landing on dry lake beds and dirt roads. It was the first time I’d ever seen pictures of the Nazca Lines in Peru. They landed on beaches, cow pastures, rainforest strips, and international airports. It was one of the most inspirational presentations I’ve ever witnessed in my life.

Doug introduced me to many of his friends, such as Yvon Chouinard, Galen Rowell, Bob Swanson, and others. I had absolutely no clue at the time who these people were, or the superstar status they enjoyed in the mountaineering milieu. They were just Doug’s mountaineering friends. Doug and I flew together many times in the 185, and he delighted in putting the plane down in tiny little cow pastures out in West Marin to keep his short field technique well-honed. After these flights out to West Marin, we’d taxi straight to the wash rack to hose off all the cow s**t.

For many years, Doug was a legendary at the Oakland Airport. As skilled a pilot as he was, he was a bit of a loose cannon when it came to aeronautical decision making, and there was always a tinge of fear that we would lose him to an aviation-related accident. He eventually was drawn to Chile, and spent his later years there until his death. Though accidental, it was not aviation related—he drowned in a kayaking accident. Doug’s proclivity for sketchy decisions and crazy adventure in airplanes is well documented in Barbara Rowell’s book, Flying South, published by Ten Speed Press.

The instructors in particular were some real characters. Most were part-timers who had other gigs going, legit or otherwise. One instructor had a PhD in physics, another was an architect. My first instructor, Dave Devlin, was a computer scientist before that was even a thing, at a time when a computer filled up an entire room.

Another instructor, who shall remain nameless even though I’m pretty sure he has flown west (nobody really knows…), was a full-on, no-holds-barred Cocaine Cowboy. He would fly all night down across the border at tree-top altitude in a King Air. He would then repeat the process northbound, drop his load somewhere in the Central Valley, snort a few lines, and be ready for his first student of the day at 9am. One day, he tossed me the keys to his clapped-out Karmann Ghia and asked me to make a burger run. He told me that he would buy if I would fly. He said that there should be some cash in a paper bag on the floor in front of the passenger seat. He wasn’t kidding.

The bag, soaked in grease from its previous load of french fries, was stuffed with cash. I grabbed the smallest bill I could find, which I think was a 50, and paid for the burgers. There must have been north of $15,000 in that bag. When I delivered the burgers and tried to give him the $40 change, he told me to just keep it as a tip. What a guy! Before he disappeared from the scene, he did try to recruit me into his clandestine operation. Even as a snot-nosed kid, I could recognize a losing proposition when I saw one, and respectfully declined his offer.

One of my early instructors, Ron Werner, was an ex-cop who also flew freight at night. He taught transcendental meditation and along with his partners, the Hiersioux brothers, Glen and Arne, bought a small cargo airline called Arabesco Air. Ron and the Hiersioux brothers renamed the operation Zoom Zoom Air. One of Zoom Zoom’s contracts was to fly freshly-baked Larraburru French Bread from SFO to LAX every night except for Sunday. In me, Ron saw free labor to help load and unload the plane, as well as a dutiful copilot so he could catch a nap while I pointed the D18 at LA. I was under strict orders not to wake him up until we were over Malibu.  I’ll never forget the smell of freshly baked sourdough bread mixed with the funky, oily, gassy smell of an ancient Beechcraft D18.

Airplane cargo door open

The author in the center with instructor, Ron Werner, standing in the cargo door of N100ZZ, the Zoom Zoom RD-4.

It was through Ron that I got my first and only stick time in a DC-3, when Zoom-Zoom added one to the fleet. It was actually an RD-4, since the plane was ex-Navy. It was on those all-nighters that I got to experience the beauty of flying into LAX at night, floating above the endless carpet of city lights as we flew over Santa Monica and Beverly Hills on a wide downwind to runway 25R, and marveling at the conga line of landing lights that extended out to the east as far as the eye could see, even at 3am.

Time passed, and I progressed through my training. I was handed off to several other instructors. This was mainly out of convenience rather than dissatisfaction with any particular instructor. I flew with everyone on staff at some point. I flew with John Taylor, our chief instructor, who possessed an encyclopedic knowledge of all things aviation, and gave me some of the best ground sessions I’ve ever received eavesdropping on his ground sessions with other students. A bit of a prickly personality on the ground, I really enjoyed how he totally chilled out in the plane, and was a pleasure to fly with. John T. did all my phase checks. After I got my Private, I worked with John on fun stuff like formation flying and rear-seat landings, a skill I still use to this day.

John Diefenbach, who was an architect, handled most of the latter phase of my training. He did all my dual cross-country training and solo sign-offs. His signature is the most beautiful signature in my logbook. It’s a testament to his artistic nature as an architect.

Charlie King, extremely tall and laconic, was a realtor who worked with me on polishing my airwork and some aerobatics. I could never figure out how he managed to fit his 6’ 7” frame in the back of a Citabria.

Since I had nearly a year to kill between my first solo flight (just after my 16th birthday) and my checkride (which required that I be at least 17), the better part of that year was devoted to aerobatics. By the time I was ready for my Private checkride, I had perfected a ten-element aerobatic routine.

I was ultimately signed off by Steve Stecher, a diminutive, soft spoken young guy from Queens who had the thickest “Noo Yawk” accent I’ve ever heard. He was a brand new CFI, and I was his first sign-off. I seem to recall that he was also a graduate student in botany at Cal while he was going for his CFI. Shortly after my checkride I believe he moved to Maui. What he did there with a PhD in botany, I’ll leave to conjecture.

My Private checkride was a very unconventional affair. It was conducted by DPE Tommy Thompson, a WWII-era pilot and retired airline captain whose office was next door to the flight school. Since Tommy was a daily fixture at Flightways, he and I were well acquainted with one another. He followed my progress closely through whatever instructor I happened to be working with at that point, and he and I spent many hours talking flying. Tommy was like my flying grandpa, so to speak.

On the day of the checkride, he announced he was satisfied with my knowledge level, based on the many discussions we’d had over the last couple of years, thus we could dispense with the oral portion of the exam. The flying portion began with some hood work, out over San Francisco Bay smack in the middle of what is now SFO Surface Class B airspace. Tommy cleverly timed it so that when I removed the hood, there was a large jet coming right at us. I took immediate evasive action (I think I did a split S). Tommy chuckled and said that that was quite satisfactory! He said that that was exactly what it looks like when a plane comes out of a cloud, pointed right at you: you have no time to think, you just react.

At that point, we started off on the cross-country portion of the checkride and headed back easterly towards Stockton, ostensibly on our way to Columbia. When we reached the area of the Tracy aerobatics box, he dispensed with the cross-country stuff and asked me to show him my aerobatic routine. I complied, and after a few elements, it was checkride satisfactorily completed. Later that afternoon, I took my best friend, Eric, up as my first passenger.

A couple months after I got my Private, my dad sported the aircraft rental for a trip from Oakland to Prescott, AZ, and back to visit my oh-so-mysterious Uncle Don, who was a reclusive figure in my life. It was one of the few times my dad went flying with me, let alone paying for the aircraft rental. My dad’s health was not so great, and my relationship with him at the time was a bit strained, but he really did enjoy himself on that trip. He got a kick out of watching me sweat gnarly weather situations, desert flying, mountains, funky dirt strips, snow, and the like. It turned out to be a fun trip, and so much the better that my dad sported nearly 20 hours in a 150-hp Citabria 7KCAB.

My senior year of high school was a blur of activity, aviation-related and otherwise. Being the only kid at Berkeley High School with a pilot certificate, I was constantly taking friends up for a hop. I also enjoyed a bit of cachet with the ladies. It was always my practice to obtain parental permission before taking a young lady up to experience the thrills that only a small aerobatic airplane with a competent pilot at the controls can provide. This led to some interesting encounters with the ‘rents. I was used to trepidation and unease about the situation on the part of the parents I spoke to regarding taking their daughters up flying. That was only natural, and I was usually able to elicit their consent quickly once they met me.

I met with the parents of one young lady in particular whose family had emigrated to Berkeley from Germany. I had been briefed by the young lady that dad could be a bit of a pill, but don’t let him scare you. Dad was also a big shot doctor with the California Department of Public Health, and was very used to being the alpha dog. While I waited in the living room of their home (I had not met either of the parents yet), I could hear some raised voices coming from the kitchen, two rooms away. After a few minutes of this, dad came busting out of the kitchen and without so much as a cursory introduction, confronted me rather aggressively and condescendingly.

One thing that my lady friend had not briefed on was that this guy was HUGE!  He was easily 6′ 7″, weighing in at at least 350 lbs. He was square-jawed with closely cropped gray hair and beard. He did not look happy. Though I’m 6’ 1″, at the time I was half his weight. He kind of invaded my personal space, getting right up in my face and peered down at me with contempt. In a thick German accent, he spat out, “Vell, young man, Victoria tells me zat you are a… pilot?”

I reached into my shirt pocket, pulled out my pilot and medical certificates, and handed them to him. Without backing up an inch, I looked squarely back at him and said, “Well doctor, the federal government says I am.” With that he backed away, looked over my certificates, and calmly handed them back to me. As he retreated back into the kitchen, I could hear him muttering to his wife, “Ja Claudia, he really is a pilot.” Victoria came out of the kitchen and gave me the thumbs up. They invited me to stay for dinner, and were quite pleasant. They were also impressed that I spoke a bit of German.

One of the perks of employment at Flightways was that one was placed on the rotation to ferry a new airplane back to OAK from the Champion factory in Wisconsin. Two weeks after my Private checkride, my turn came up. The boss, however, decided that since I was still a little wet behind the ears, my colleague Bob Haberman should accompany me, since he was a 19-year old Commercial pilot. Two teenagers flying across the country in a little dinky plane… what could possibly go wrong? You can read the story of that trip in a previous article. Suffice it to say, it was the adventure of a lifetime and (spoiler alert!) we made it home in one piece.

Bob Haberman

The author on the left, and my friend Bob Haberman on the right, posing in front of the Champion 7ACA that we ferried back to KOAK from Osceola, WI.

Drew Kemp
29 replies
  1. Dale C Hill
    Dale C Hill says:

    Drew, I enjoyed your story. You obviously have a great deal of air-sense from growing up around airplanes. I had an IP when I was in Air Force pilot training who, sitting in the adjacent ejection seat of our Air force T-37 would turn his Air Force Academy ring on his left hand around so the rather large stone set in it was on the palm-side of his hand. Then, when I made a ‘stupid’ error’ he would smack my knee with that stone to get my attention. I actually got pretty quick and could see in my peripheral vision when he would ‘wind-up’ to strike. It sometimes meant a momentary yaw as I stomped on the right rudder to get my knee out of the way. He was a great IP and I still recall his instruction, “When you’re bored with boring holes in the sky, do some ‘Snoopy Flips'” His ideas of ‘Snoopy Flips’ was a string of aerobatics like a Cloverleaf, to a Cuban-8, then an Immelmann.

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    • Drew Kemp
      Drew Kemp says:

      Thanks Dale,
      I really enjoy your articles as well, As an instructor, I think the highest compliment a former student can pay is when I get an email or text from them saying that some little nugget I taught them years ago got them out of a tight situation.
      I learned from some of the best, freakiest pilots in the Bay Area. I’m just carrying on with the tradition.

      Cheers, Drew

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      • Trevor Benjamin
        Trevor Benjamin says:

        I teach at the aviation campus at the university of trinidad and tobago in the caribbean.Your article is awesome and hope to share with my students.Will like to chat with you on zoom if possibe.Appreciate your words of inspiration
        Regards
        Trevor

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      • Louis Tondu
        Louis Tondu says:

        Hey Drew! Just stumbled upon your article and realized you are the same Drew I went flying with along with my buddy Dave Sprinkle ! I did not realize we both grew up in berkeley about the same time. I also have climbed a bit with Galen Rowell when we were both young. I enjoyed your story and brings back many of my own OAK memories.

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      • Jay Smith
        Jay Smith says:

        Drew,

        I was an AAC member 1999 through roughly 2016, newsletter editor for a few years and treasurer for two (don’t want to repeat that). That picture of you deplaning from a DC-6 could have been me at about the same time. I was a passenger again in a DC-6 in the mid 1960s, from KSAC to KLAX, watching those P&W R2860s burp to life. Got my private SEL license in 1968 flying from KEDU, and my IFR rating at KHWD with Fremont Flyers in 1976.

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  2. Gary Kendall
    Gary Kendall says:

    Really great read. I learned to fly at PRC in 1965 with a former military instructor. He taught you to “fly the damn plane”. He bought a new 115 horse Citabria in ’67 and proceeded to give aerobatic instruction. It was always an interesting flight when he would tell me to get in back, he wanted to drive. I loved flying that airplane, though I never got into real aerobatic flying. Reading your story took me back to a much better time in my life, though I have no regrets about my life as it turned out. Thanks for sharing.

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    • Drew Kemp
      Drew Kemp says:

      Thanks Gary! I’m really glad you enjoyed reading it, and that it provoked good memories of your early days in aviation. I love the Prescott area. It’s so beautiful!

      Cheers, Drew Kemp

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  3. Enderson Rafael
    Enderson Rafael says:

    These were some of the sweetest memoirs I’ve seen in a while! Not just the enlightening content, but the graceful form – it could easily pass as a John Green’s character, not only for the vivid adventures but also for the clever way of telling them. Thanks a lot for sharing, Drew! If I ever fly to SFO, wanna pay you a free cappuccino at KOAK to hear some more on the spot! Cheers and thank you!

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  4. Raymond Nickels
    Raymond Nickels says:

    Drew,
    Thanks for the great read. I was an Air Force ROTC student at UC Berkeley in the 1970’s. To screen us for eventual pilot training, we were given 25 hours of primary instruction. This was done at OAK, and of course was provided by the lowest bidder. I don’t remember the name of the flight school, but there were two or three Cessna 150s, often with no prop spinner and seats propped-up by a 2 x 4. And of course, no headsets were used. My instructor’s last job was as a Rhodesian Air Force mercenary in the back seat of an F-4. Pattern work usually took place over at Buchanan Field (CCR), where there were parallel runways. On a regular basis, when we were on base leg and happened to be pointing at the traffic on final for the parallel runway, my clearly bored instructor would grab the yoke, push and pull it violently and yell, “Guns, guns, guns!” Great place to learn to fly!

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    • Drew Kemp
      Drew Kemp says:

      Thanks Raymond,
      The Bay Area is a target rich environment for flying adventures. I’ll bet you flew out of the school that eventually morphed out of Flightways. The guy who ran the Pilot Shoppe across the hall from Flightways bought Flightways after the owner Jug Shoaf was killed when he and a friend went down off of Half Moon Bay. He got rid of all the Citabrias and bought the most clapped out C150 he could find. His name was Sabri. Ring a bell?

      Cheers, Drew

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      • Raymond Nickels
        Raymond Nickels says:

        Afraid not. I was too clueless at the time to pay attention to any of that. Heck, I didn’t even know that my ROTC issued flight suit was not supposed to be worn over all my other regular clothes!

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    • Richard Ebers
      Richard Ebers says:

      Earned my Private at CCR summer of 1976 (Cal West Aviation?) while also working as line boy for Pacific States Aviation (when owner Warren Boggess reported traffic on KSFO.) Great place to learn, being a controlled, busy field and yet close to wide open practice areas out over the delta. Ended up with a job with Cessna Finance right out of college and frequently flew into OAK to visit the local distributor, Airflight, and the local Cessna dealer. Good times.

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  5. Erik Edgren
    Erik Edgren says:

    Great story! What an unexpected treat with my morning coffee. I’m a big believer in the value of aerobatics and flying multiple types with multiple instructors to make a better rounded pilot. Your story is one of the best I have ever read.

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  6. Bill Kaupe
    Bill Kaupe says:

    Drew
    Great piece of writing!
    I went to grad school at Cal in 1971. In those days I did all my “flying on the ground,” as Neil Young sang.
    I got my Private at age 52 in Ithaca, NY fulfilling a life long desire and my greatest personal accomplishment.

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  7. Lon Sobel
    Lon Sobel says:

    Wonderful article. I was a Cal student in the early ’60s. Back then, like now, the airlines had a serious need for pilots. The military — the airlines usual source for new hires — was extending the enlistments of pilots, because the military needed them for the war in Vietnam. The airlines were so needful that United advertised for pilots in the classified section of the San Francisco Chronicle, offering to pay for the training of applicants who had just a Private Pilot certificate. Intrigued, I took an intro lesson with a flight school at Oakland Airport. As I recall, the lesson cost all of $5. I enjoyed it so much, that I sprung for another $5 intro lesson, and decided to begin training. I began by getting the required physical and discovered that I was color blind — something I had never before realized. So that was the end of my plans to become a United pilot. Decades and decades later, though, I did become a Private Pilot, and love flying as much as I thought I would, back when I was a Cal student.

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  8. ANDREW MCDONOUGH
    ANDREW MCDONOUGH says:

    Drew, great memories, thank you for sharing them.
    The western end of Hangar 2 at KOAK was the later home of the Oakland Division of California Air Charter, a Part 135 freight (bank checks) hauler back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Many a pilot learned the skills of hard IFR line flying throughout the year, fog in the summer, rain and ice in the winter from that hangar. Hangar 1, just to the east, housed “Bayview Aviation” a Cessna dealer and charter outfit with a flight school attached, and then of course “Sierra Academy of Aeronautics” occupied the first building along Hangar row, where I earned my Turbo-jet Flight Engineer license. A great walk down memory lane, looks like you were an early pioneer.
    All the best.
    Andrew

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  9. Joe Santana
    Joe Santana says:

    I flew for Transwest Air Express out of Oakland Hangar 5 in 1978 .
    Ron was the DO. I flew 100ZZ from the original Zoom Zoom. Call sign was Racer 1.
    What a great group of pilots.

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  10. Tony Malone
    Tony Malone says:

    Drew is not only an excellent writer, he’s an excellent instructor. His experience shows in the air as a very confident and capable instructor.
    I’ve flown many hour with him and I’m happy to call him friend, mentor, colleague and instructor.
    Great work Drew, keep these articles coming.

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  11. Rafael Barreto
    Rafael Barreto says:

    That’s a great story, Drew! Very proud to have you as my CFI. Maybe we can do some of these aerobatics one of these days :D

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  12. John Diefenbach
    John Diefenbach says:

    Hi Drew:
    I was searching the web for Ron Werner the other day, and was delighted to find your article on OAK in the olden days! And very surprised to find my own name!
    From my log book, you were my first student at Flightways, Jan 24 1971, in 9082L.
    I’d love to share some memories, but would prefer to do it one to one. Could you send me your email address?
    Best regards,
    John

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  13. Glen hiersoux
    Glen hiersoux says:

    Enjoyed your story. Ron Werner was my instructor at Flighways (and my partner at ZZA) when Bob Short flew in from Columbia and landed his Citibria on the numbers and taxied to the ramp via the east run up area for 27R. What a landing ! Ron and Arne have left us but we had a great partnership and I am proud of the airline that we put together in the 70’s. By the way, we did not by Arabesco. Ron flew with them and Arne and I flew copilot with Ron, when we got v the idea to run DC3C’s instead of Beech 18’s. What a time to be in aviation.

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